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Monday, January 28, 2008

BEWARE OF DECEPTIVE INTERNET CAR PRICING

BULLETIN: Senator Jeff Atwater will call into my radio show this Saturday, February 9 at 9:05 AM. You can listen in at Seaview AM 960, WSVU. You can stream the show on the Internet by clicking on www.seaviewam960.com.


Last September, I wrote a column for this newspaper entitled “The Internet Price is the Lowest Price for a New Car”. If you missed that, you can read all of my columns at www.EarlStewartOnCars.com. Although, I still believe you can find your best price on the Internet, I thought that I should write another column to stress how careful you must be in determining whether or not you have a real, bottom line, out-the-door price.

The reason that a dealer always tries to post his lowest new car price on the Internet is simple. If he doesn’t the Internet shopper will simply ignore the price quote and buy from another dealer who has a lower price. A car dealer gets “just one chance” to sell you a car when he puts his price out on the Internet. The Internet is theoretically the purest and best form of a competitive marketplace, favoring the buyer. Think about it…if you wanted to take the time you could get a price quote from every Honda, Toyota, or Ford dealer in the USA! There are about 1,300 Toyota dealers in the USA. It might take you a while (about 8 days if you worked 8 hours a day and spent 3 minutes per email), but you sure would know who was selling your selected model Toyota for the lowest price.

Whether you are reading newspaper ads, watching TV ads, reading direct mail advertising, or surfing car a dealer’s Web site you have to be careful of deception. Internet advertising on car dealer’s Web sites and their Internet price quotes can be more deceptive than other media. This is because the Internet is the “new frontier”. Legislation has not caught up with the Internet like it has newspaper, TV, and radio advertising. A dealer can get away with a lot more on his Web site and price quotes than he can in a newspaper ad. Electronic media and newspaper advertising are also a lot more visible to the regulators than the Internet.

I’ll give you an example of the type of violation you must be wary of. There’s a car dealer in West Palm Beach who quotes prices to his customers over the Internet excluding $699.95 for a “dealer fee” plus $199.95 for a “doc fee”. This totals $899.90 in a surprise price increase when you come into the dealership to pick up your car. The written warning you have is an asterisk denoting some fine print at the bottom of the Internet quote that says *plus tax, tag, and fees. The “fees” mean $899 in additional price and profit to the dealer on top of the price you were quoted. As if this practice isn’t bad enough, many people come in, sign the papers, and drive their new car home without even realizing that they paid an extra $899.90 because it is hidden in the voluminous paperwork that you sign rapidly in the dealer’s finance office.

Your defense against this sort of thing is to call those dealers who have given you the lowest price quotes on the vehicle you want to buy. Start with the lowest price and simply ask, “Is there anything else added to my price other than Florida sales tax and a state fee for a license tag or tag transfer?” If they do add something, find out specifically what they do add so that you know you have an “out-the-door”, bottom line price when you come in to take delivery. If they won’t give you a clear answer or are ambiguous, hang up and call the next dealer.

Dealers who advertise deceptively have the philosophy that all that counts with their advertising is to “get them in the door”. Another slang dealers use for this is “driving floor traffic”. They calculate that if they can trick enough people to come through the door, they will be able to fool a certain percentage of them. It’s like Abraham Lincoln said, “You may fool all the people some of the time, you can even fool some of the people all of the time, but you cannot fool all of the people all of the time.” Well these dealers don’t have to fool all of the people to make lots of money. All they have to do is fool some of the people all of the time and that’s exactly what their advertising is designed to do. Don’t be one of those who are fooled.

3 comments:

  1. I wondered how long that article from Saturday would last. With your honest approach to your political pursuit, some inconsistencies were glaringly obvious when describing your dealings with the politician. Such as (along with many others) , how the same promise of support from the politician was promised to both sides of opposing positions without the politician being a liar to one side or the other. Also, no response to a constituent until a real life description of how you were treated (blown off by tagging your phone as one to ignore) was posted in an article, and then a phone call and meeting a few hours later. I don't Earl. I asked you how you were going to deal with this new arena (politics). Your answer was curious. In your quest for money I hope you don't end up following false prophets at the expense of Positive Principles. If you choose Positive Principles it will be a tough (but rewarding) road to drive. Good luck Earl. Fred13red@yahoo.com

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  2. I wondered how long that article from Saturday would last. With your honest approach to your political pursuit, some inconsistencies were glaringly obvious when describing your dealings with the politician. Such as (along with many others) , how the same promise of support from the politician was promised to both sides of opposing positions without the politician being a liar to one side or the other. Also, no response to a constituent until a real life description of how you were treated (blown off by tagging your phone as one to ignore) was posted in an article, and then a phone call and meeting a few hours later. I don't know Earl. I asked you how you were going to deal with this new arena (politics). Your answer was curious. In your quest for money I hope you don't end up following false prophets at the expense of Positive Principles. If you choose Positive Principles it will be a tough (but rewarding) road to drive. Good luck Earl. Fred13red@yahoo.com

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  3. As I have done on my other blog postings, I have deleted comments that contain vulgar language or references. I welcome opposing points of view especially when they assume the form of rage-filled attacks (they have no IDEA how well they make my points for me).

    Let's just keep it clean :)

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